National Defense Authorization Act (NDDA) – US Senate wants the entire USA to be a “battleground”

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Day 14 Occupy Wall Street September 30, 2011
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In a stunning move that has civil libertarians stuttering with disbelief, the U.S. Senate has just passed a bill that effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America and will turn USA into a battleground.

Text: Mike Adams | Also watch this video: The US Constitution is gone 

The National Defense Authorization Act is being called the most traitorous act ever witnessed in the Senate, and the language of the bill is cleverly designed to make you think it doesn’t apply to Americans, but toward the end of the bill it essentially says it can apply to Americans “if we want it to.”

Bill Summary & Status, 112th Congress (2011 – 2012) | S.1867 | Latest Title: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 | Sponsor: Sen Levin, Carl [MI] (introduced 11/15/2011) | Related Bills: H.R.1540 | Latest Major Action: 12/1/2011 Passed/agreed to in Senate. | Status: Passed Senate with amendments by Yea-Nay. 93 – 7. | Record Vote Number: 218. | Latest Action: 12/1/2011 National Defense Authorization Act | Amendment details


This bill, passed late last night in a 93-7 vote, declares the entire USA to be a “battleground” upon which U.S. military forces can operate with impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus and granting the military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with impunity.

Even WIRED magazine was outraged at this bill, reporting:

Senate Wants the Military to Lock You Up Without Trial
…the detention mandate to use indefinite military detention in terrorism cases isn’t limited to foreigners. It’s confusing, because two different sections of the bill seem to contradict each other, but in the judgment of the University of Texas’ Robert Chesney — a nonpartisan authority on military detention — “U.S. citizens are included in the grant of detention authority.” Source

The passage of this law is nothing less than an outright declaration of WAR against the American People by the military-connected power elite. If this is signed into law, it will shred the remaining tenants of the Bill of Rights and unleash upon America a total military dictatorship, complete with secret arrests, secret prisons, unlawful interrogations, indefinite detainment without ever being charged with a crime, the torture of Americans and even the “legitimate assassination” of U.S. citizens on right here on American soil!

If you have not yet woken up to the reality of the police state we’ve been warning you about, I hope you realize we are fast running out of time. Once this becomes law, you have no rights whatsoever in America — no due process, no First Amendment speech rights, no right to remain silent, nothing.

Text: Mike Adams

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  1. Everyone is blowing things out of proportion.

    This same bill is passed every year. It essentially assigns the Navy money for ships, the Army money for rifles, ect. Common sense should tell you NONE OF OUR RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED.

    If there were secret prisons and arrests, ect. America would revolt, ending very badly for the government.

    And, for the record, I’m 14. So, seriously, use your heads.

    • >If there were secret prisons and arrests, ect. America would revolt, ending very badly for the government.

      And, for the record, I’m 14.<

      Yes, you are, and you're naive. There are and have been secret arrests. Unfortunately, Americans are too complacent, too snuggled in their material comfort to bother to care — as long as it doesn't affect them directly; as long as it hasn't happened to them personally it doesn't exist. What you don't know can't hurt you. That's why there's no revolt.

      Yes, commons sense SHOULD tell you none of our rights are being violated. But, unfortunately, the reality is that they are. Read the language of the bill — it's not explicitly clear, but it's in there (Hello "L Scott"!): American citizens can be detained and held indefinitely without due process upon the suspicion of being a "terrorist" or associating or aiding and abetting such. The language of the bill gives leeway for this to be interpreted very broadly.

      And, indeed, this has already existed — at least for non-citizens — but it's now being extended further.

      • Have you seen the TV series 24 at least? Can you imagine what horrible disaster Jack Bauer wouldn’t be able to prevent if such measures as this bill weren’t allowed?

        Other countries all around the world use terrible types of interrogation, sabotage, industrial espionage, and subversion. The U.S. protects humanitarian and civil rights whenever possible, as its democracy prescribes. However, providing long periods of due process for a terrorist can conditionally be tantamount to aiding and embedding their plot, if it is time-sensitive.

        Why don’t you write a screen-play that shows us how Jack Bauer and the armed forces will protect the nation without such measures. As always:
        THERE IS NO WAY TO PEACE, PEACE IS THE WAY

        But, should U.S. National Security policy promote non-violence at the cost of American lives? (HINT: Are the terrorists promoting non-violence?)

  2. Matthew Cantwell says:
    3 december, 2011 at 09:36

    “Laziest journalism I have ever read. Literally no content in this article. So you saw a wired article and are reporting on what it said? BTW, the wired article ALSO does not cite a specific provision of the bill. Come on folks. Think for yourselves before you believe what some RANDOM (yes random) person wrote on the internet. Everyone read the bill yourself and you have done more work then both article writers.”

    You nailed it man, this is bullshit!

  3. To those of you criticizing the article for lack of facts: the article includes a link to the actual bill, duh!
    You think things are only true if its reported in mainstream media like NBC, ABC, etc? Seriously? You think the government isn’t able to keep secrets from its people? Really? Wow, you got the wool pulled over your eyes, like most in this country.
    Major news outlets have reported on it, such as NY Times:
    >…one of the most sweeping claims of executive power made by the Bush administration after Sept. 11: that the government can hold citizens without a trial by accusing them of being terrorists.
    One of the proponents of making no exceptions for Americans, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said it would be “crazy” to exempt Qaeda suspects who are Americans and are arrested inside the country from battlefield-style detention. He argued that, to stop other attacks, they must be interrogated without the protections of the civilian criminal justice system. Citizens who are suspected of joining Al Qaeda are opening themselves up “to imprisonment and death,” Mr. Graham said, adding, “And when they say, ‘I want my lawyer,’ you tell them: ‘Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer. You are an enemy combatant, and we are going to talk to you about why you joined Al Qaeda.’” But Senator Mike Lee, Republican of Utah, said citizen terrorism suspects should retain their “fundamental civil liberties” in order to protect the founding principles of the United States. “I think at a bare minimum, that means we will not allow U.S. military personnel to arrest and indefinitely detain U.S. citizens, regardless of what label we happen to apply to them,” he said. Before voting to leave current law unchanged, the Senate rejected, 55 to 45, a proposal by Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, to instead say that Americans are exempt from detention under the 2001 authorization to use military force.<
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/02/us/senate-declines-to-resolve-issue-of-american-qaeda-suspects-arrested-in-us.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=military%20detention&st=cse

    And how does it help to vote? The people we voted in voted for this. Can't even blame the Republicans, since Democrats voted for this bill, too. And we voted in Obama, but he's only continuing business as usual of Bush. We can only hope Obama vetoes this bill. More pointedly, voting has shown to be useless, since in past elections many votes did not get counted, were disregarded, or otherwise prevented.

    Good morning, Guantanamo.

    • It cites the bill. That doesn’t mean that they’re right, it just means that they know how to copy and paste a link. I’ve been looking at this bill, and from what I can gather (note that I am in no way an expert, and I did not read the entire 900 page bill, like you and whoever wrote this article), the government has no intention of changing the circumstances under which people are arrested. If you look around at pages 426-30, you’ll find what I think the article is talking about, but also this:
      “AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.”

      http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867es/pdf/BILLS-112s1867es.pdf

    • So because it cites the bill…..they are automatically correct in their statements? Um rAtard….did you even read the bill or just take their word for it? Did you even read any one’s comments refuting this article? Every person who said this article was BS has copied and pasted parts of the bill that could POTENTIALLY be questionable and explain exactly how this is another well done job by a small media organization trying to get acknowledgement. Well they did and it’s not positive. Exaggerating something to the point where it is almost false is not good for anyone. But that’s the media, great at pretending to be experts on things they have no clue about.

      You are dumber than they are. Read the bill yourself before posting next time. They even gave you the link to it and you still made yourself look stupid

  4. I do not know how much of this is true, but who is controlling the senate? Republicans, who past the Patriot act? Republicans. Its funny im a big supporter of the constitution, but something people over look. We say I have the rite to own a gun, or I have the right of free speach, etc, what peope fail to see, The Constitution is not about what WE THE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO DO, its a DOCUMENT TELLING WASHINGTON WHAT THEY CANT, why do we hae the right to bear arms? To form a militia should the Goverment tryo to take away our freedoms? why do we have freedom o speech? So we can speak out agaisnt the attrocities with outfear of reprecussion, why do we have the 4th amendment, so to protect us should the goverment become corupt and arrest you for no reason, now under the patriot act, whihc in a court of law was proven unconstituional more then once violates the constitution. But again this is republicans takig away freedom under the guise of terrorist

  5. Let’s not forget the 2nd Amendment, which protects the right to bear arms.

    Sure, the government could go ahead and take us over with our own military. On the other hand, the citizens of the USA own weapons. Some don’t just own only one gun. There are plenty of American citizens that own a gun collection. It is not wise one solitary bit to try and militarize the US when each American will be wielding and can be wielding a gun and pointing it in the other direction.

    Furthermore, the US’s military has had to deal with our own government too. Everything that the politicians have been doing to pocket money for themselves and doing it by taking it away from the US’s military fund has done gone unnoticed by our military. Any attempt by our government to militarize anything is going to be met with opposition from the very soldiers they think they command. This tips the scale, which leads to this….

    The American citizens AND! military will not be pointing their guns at each other. Every single gun will be pointing at the government. Not smart. Not smart. Not smart. Not smart. Not smart. We should fire our politicians that are responsible for this before this escalates any further.

  6. Terrorist: n. The big army’s name for the little army. Ex. The terrorists destroyed a huge shipment of tea, costing the government thousands in taxes.

    The values may be different, but the reasoning remains the same; it is all perspective. There are people, I’m fairly certain, that disagree greatly with what our government in the U.S. has become, and were they to attempt some kind of coup or other action, they would be labeled as terrorists just the same as Al-Qaeda, the IRA, or other extranational opposition organizations.

  7. Why do we need money for our troops , our navy ships , our army , our rifles that’s non scene isn’t the war over ? why don’t we use all the extra rifles from all of the dead troops we had sent to the middle east for no reason thanks to Mr president Bush …. it would be more common sense to use and invest the money for the new upcoming generation of Americans … our children !

  8. Seriously, I had to click a citation to get an actual citation, and that first link doesn’t cite the actual section right off. I read the text, it’s fairly clear on who is subject to military law.

    DON’T TL;DR IMPORTANT SHIT, PEOPLE!

  9. You guys need a history lesson. The Posse Comitatus act was passed as part of the Compromise of 1877 that ended military occupation of the South and returned rule to white supremacists. It was passed mostly to prevent the military from being used to stop lynching and organized violence against blacks, since local law enforcement would not. Want a threat to the Bill of Rights? There it is.

  10. this ALSO would allow the military forces to patrol, arrest & use deadly force to protect our borders, especially our southern borders where Drug Cartell is running remnant on both sides of the border!!!!!!!!

  11. CIA been doin secret assassinations and arrests before you were in diapers the American government bombed its own towers and blamed it on benladin who use to work for Americaan government so that they can invade for oil and make money off of all the revenuel like movies books and so on then lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq for more oil America trying to take over the middle east might as well the new Nazis that’s right the American government and president is the new Hitler

  12. The bill wasn’t passed, first of all. The vote was to allow the bill to move forward by closing the debate. They voted to end the debating, not to pass the bill.

    cloture – The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster. Under the cloture rule (Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes.

    Secondly, I challenge anyone to find the statements that are supposedly meant to “arrest and indefinitely detain U.S. citizens”. It isn’t in there, but there are instances where it is addressed as being specifically NOT meant for that purpose.

    Thirdly, Mike Adams (and his Natural News) is a conspiracy theorist. He has learned how to make money in America… appeal to people who want to feel like victims of the state. He’s Fox news for people who think they’re too smart for Fox but still want to think of themselves as rebels of the establishment.

  13. To Richard @ 5:15: The Democrats control the Senate, the Republicans control the House. Duh! Since the basic premise of your argument is incorrect, that doesn’t say much for the rest of your opinion, now does it? Get a clue!

  14. The govt. has and will continue to rule our lives. Wake up America and smell the roses. Be educated on what is going on with our govt. They want to keep us blind to the fact that they are wanting to control us like puppets. that is what they have been doing for years. they want to show us how stupid we really are because we are not paying attention to what they are doing to us.

  15. From the bill summery:
    [quote:]Subtitle D: Detainee Matters – (Sec. 1031) Affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force includes the authority for U.S. Armed Forces to detain covered persons pending disposition under the law of war. Defines a “covered person” as a person who: (1) planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for such attacks; or (2) was part of or substantially supported al Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners. Requires the Secretary to regularly brief Congress on the application of such authority.

    (Sec. 1032) Requires U.S. Armed Forces to hold in custody pending disposition a person who was a member or part of al Qaeda or an associated force and participated in planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.
    <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> Outlines implementation procedures. [/quote]
    They do not have to say what you did or who you associate with anymore to justify unlimited detention. Especially noted is US citizens and lawful resident aliens, who never have to be accused of anything, so long as the Secretary says that they did it for “national security”

  16. From the bill summery:
    [quote:]Subtitle D: Detainee Matters – (Sec. 1031) Affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force includes the authority for U.S. Armed Forces to detain covered persons pending disposition under the law of war. Defines a “covered person” as a person who: (1) planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for such attacks; or (2) was part of or substantially supported al Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners. Requires the Secretary to regularly brief Congress on the application of such authority.

    (Sec. 1032) Requires U.S. Armed Forces to hold in custody pending disposition a person who was a member or part of al Qaeda or an associated force and participated in planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.
    Authorizes the Secretary to waive such requirement in the national security interest. Makes such requirement inapplicable to U.S. citizens or U.S. lawful resident aliens.Outlines implementation procedures. [/quote]
    They do not have to say what you did or who you associate with anymore to justify unlimited detention. Especially noted is US citizens and lawful resident aliens, who never have to be accused of anything, so long as the Secretary says that they did it for “national security”

  17. I just want to point out one thing…Many keep saying, “if it was happening, the people would be revolting.” Um, I’m taking it a lot of people don’t watch, nor read the news. They are! The whole country is in shit, and a lot of people ARE revolting…

    Weather anything like this would pass or not, don’t really matter. We’re all screwed anyways. And our children even more so. After all the years, we have officially let our country go to shit, and yes, we let it happen.

    Our government has been out of control, and we let big corporations take over. Been that way for a long time. The ones with wool over there eyes are just now seeing it. And others just don’t care. Welcome to the new world!

  18. Writ of Habeas Corpus – if I remember correctly from college – covers all citizens and non-citizens within the US. However, after 911 it seems to have been preempted by the Patriot Act excluding non-citizens connected to terrorism aimed against the US. It would appear it is only a matter of time before some group gains power within the government and reverses it for citizens. Of course, for citizens in competition with them. Whether or not this bill does it, I don’t know. I read parts of it related to detainees, but it isn’t clear to me.

  19. All this talk is giving me a headache. Regardless if it happens or not prepare yourself people. America is going down hill fast and we most all be prepared.

  20. This might be how the world ends after all. Not a rapture or demons from hell engulfing the earth, but a civil revolt that becomes a revolution, which then turns into global turmoil.

  21. This is the most ridiculous article. Unless all of you are concerned with your terrorist plots being thwarted stop worrying. Sitting in my law classes I find that again and again the people who are the most worried about acts like this are the people committing crimes. If you aren’t doing anything to merit flagging the government’s attention then calm down. I certainly wouldn’t oppose a bill before me that allowed a way to deter crime and terrorism here at home

  22. Can anyone tell me where exactly “near the end of the bill” is? Section and Subsection would be nice. I’ve found the section where all of the authorities and limitations are layed out, but they’re saying it’s mentioned again. I haven’t found that. Anyone got a clue?

  23. All I have to say is why? I can read various facts and many strong opinions but my question is what possible reasons would people feel this bill necessary to push through? Really.

  24. Sensationalist nonsense.

    The title of the article reads, “U.S. Senate Declares the entire USA to be a “Battleground””

    When quotation marks are placed around a word/words, it implicates a quote. That is to say, a direct excerpt from the st. Obviously, the U.S. Senate has NOT declared the USA a “Battleground” or anything like it.

    This is just a load of crap that’s been less well thought-out than even the goofiest 9/11 conspiracy theory or alien abduction, er, news item…

  25. On what page (of the 923 pages of this bill) does the verbiage in question exist? And which spped-reader had the time to read all 923 pages since last night in order to find it? I smell fish.

  26. You guys make the Tea Party look smart. Come on! You’re getting your news from this fucking Serbian bullshit website? All this act does is authorize the navy with federal funds for 2012. I know it’s a scary thought that our military would come after its own citizens in the way that they come after terrorists, but until an American citizen is actually detained or assassinated (no, that faggot internet-propagandist in Yemen can’t claim US citizenship when HE DECLARES WAR on the US!!) I think we’re safe.

    I know a lot of people wish occupy wall st would cause the military to intervene, but, unfortunately, marching up and down the street isn’t really in the same ballpark as declaring holy war against the United States. We (progressives, not idiots) want a fairer distribution of income and reform in the capital market. It’s really not that radical when you think about it. I don’t think we’re in any danger of Martial Law just yet.

    …Guess I better “skicka kommentar”… jesus fucking christ I can’t believe I just spent 10 minutes commenting on this bullshit.

  27. When doing some research on this I found that the bill in question is an annual bill and that the amendment added to it that would allow the military to detain US citizens, called the Udall Amendment, was voted out of the final version of the bill. It’s really a good idea to actually do some real research on something like this before trying to outright scare people with BS!

    Here’s the link to the vote on the Udall Amendment:

    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00210

    And some more about it is here: http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2011/11/vote-results-udallco-amendment-1107

    And here’s the full text of the Udall Amendment in all its craziness:

    http://www.markudall.com/content/page/full_text_of_the_udall_detainee_amendment

  28. Mr. Adams, please link the title, paragraph, section, and sub-paragraph where you find basis for this allegation. I’m not discrediting your article, I would just like to view the evidence for myself. Thank you!

  29. My God people. I don’t get it; ”Oh this story is bullshit cause this guy blah blah blah” ”Oh wait, this story might be true cause blah blah blah”. Fucking read!

    SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.

    (a) In General- Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending disposition under the law of war.

    (b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person as follows:

    (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.

    (2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

    (c) Disposition Under Law of War- The disposition of a person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may include the following:

    (1) Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force.

    (2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009 (title XVIII of Public Law 111-84)).

    (3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent tribunal having lawful jurisdiction.

    (4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.

    (d) Construction- Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force.

    (e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

    (f) Requirement for Briefings of Congress- The Secretary of Defense shall regularly brief Congress regarding the application of the authority described in this section, including the organizations, entities, and individuals considered to be `covered persons’ for purposes of subsection (b)(2).

  30. Being an American shouldn’t give you a free pass to be treated differently than terrorists from other countries. If I were a cop, I wouldn’t treat my kids any differently in respect to criminal activities than any other person. It’s just a harder experience to go through if it’s one of your own.

    Lou Barba

  31. Every worthwhile truth-exposing documentary gets this kind of attack.
    Many are paid by the powers that be to sit at computer banks, troll the Internet for anything that undermines the Agenda, and then create bogus disinformation to try to discredit it.
    You will notice it is rarely substantive at all, it still servers to scare off a few faint-hearted folks. It comes with the territory and the truth will prevail.
    Be strong and go with your gut.

  32. Seriously Jeff Has it right.

    READ THE BILL FOR YOURSELF! Stop speculating like idiot children.

    Specifically, Section 1031 subsection E

    “(e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.”

    AND Section 1032 Subsection B

    “(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—

    (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

    (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.”

  33. I’d be more inclined to take someone’s post seriously if they know the difference between ‘Then’ and ‘Than’, ‘Would’ and ‘Wood’, ‘Their’ and ‘There’, ‘Allude and ‘Elude’, ‘Here’ and ‘Hear’, ‘Bear, Bare and Beer (swallow your tongue and roll eye’s back at this point).
    And then there’s (not their’s) ‘Prolly’. A sub for probably or just a typo?

  34. If anyone thinks that our government has not been doing things in secret to our citizens (since the very beginning) they are not living in reality.

  35. i don’t mean to add to the confusion of these comments, but something should be said. There are government revolts, many are not for the better, but many are geared and ready to kill. If they were organized they could in theory, defeat a larger organization, say, the US government. Now to say this bill solely does one thing or another is false. as to say that with most bills. Now from the few pages i read, what i understand is that it does essentially build navel and army supplies up (in laymens words, sense i know no other) but it can along with that, as a sort of tag along, do what the article says. now i build this theory on an act that was passed during WW2 which helped supply troops overseas with this that and other essential things that US soldiers need over seas that will always be needed over seas. but along with that was a tag along that built a “sheep breeding” organization to supply america at large with a constant supply of good wool. Sense that is no longer a need, and sense its a very costly program it would make sense to get rid of it. but sense its part of a larger program at work, we can’t. now i read this in a news paper, so i cant post the link, but as soon as i do, i will.

  36. I just wanna say that if this becomes true and the government does do all that stuff people will revolt. It’s plain and simple. They will only take so much untill they stand up and fight for their freedoms just like us Americans have had to in the past. Plus I bet this law is being influenced by all the old senators who feel that our younger generation may be doing harm to its country. If that’s true we only need to wait till they all die off. I’m 28 years old right now. I know it’s the generation of my grandparents and parents whos vote mostly count, but give us like 20-40 years or so and the whole government and society will totally change into what my generation has in store. And then another generation after us would have the ability to makes changes. I call it clashing of the generations. It’s happened in the early 1990s with the freedoms of slaves. I have been able to see it with people getting less conservative over time and as we progress as a species, we will see it again. So regardless if this law passes, we the people will always have the power to over throw anything. Especially our own government. I personally don’t think it will ever get to that point tho. We have fought so hard forgo be where we are that.

  37. gosh, you guys are a bunch of douches. america this. america that. america will not collapse & if we ever did. we’ll go right back to where we started & the economy will pick up again. corporate banks have always been ruling a piece of this country & i bet you anything all of you have bank accounts!!! ridiculous. just shut up. seriously. the negativity you guys bring is only making it worse so how about you guys change your stupid little attitudes around & actually do something to help our economy instead of loathing & complaining on your macbooks & pc’s that gosh forbid capitalism has done nothing for you! geesh man. gosh no wonder half of the world hates us. theres no other country i rather be & i love my country & i have FAITH in my fucking country like the founding fathers did.

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