The Norwegian who was put in prison for announcing a coming pedophile ring shit storm

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Thomas Hansen, privat foto
Thomas Hansen, privat foto

TRAFFICKING. Yesterday a Norwegian ex banker, official, former minister of fisheries, current freemason and politician was sentenced to five years in prison after he used three asylum-seeking refugees for private sexual exploitation. This is just a part of a bigger problem says Thomas Hansen who found advanced sex and pedophile trafficking rings in Norway.

When Thomas Hansen went public and announced he was going to reveal distasteful information about pedophiles and sex trafficking in Norway he was apprehended by the police and put in prison for 6 months. The prosecutor claims he made bomb threats, but Hansens says he only announced the ignition of a coming shit storm of information. Later he fled the country and his defense lawyer has warned him never to return to Norway. NewsVoice interviewed Thomas Hansen by mail in June, 2019.

Interview by Torbjorn Sassersson, NewsVoice | Watch Thomas Hansen’s comments on his YouTube channel

NewsVoice: Thomas Hansen, tell us a little about how you came in contact with subject of sex trafficking in Norway.

How I got in interested in sex trafficking and prostitution, is a question that is difficult for me to answer without disclosing the identity of some people whom I do not want to disclose. But I have been passionately interested in sex trafficking my entire adult life, due to personal reasons. I have never bought sex myself though, and I don’t think I’ve ever had sex with a prostitute, but every time I read how Jesus treated prostitutes I become very emotional.

Prostitutes are unfortunately considered the “scum of the earth”, I want to show others it is the wrong way to look at things. I have had many both current and former prostitutes as my friends over the time, both male and female prostitutes, and some of the stories they have told me makes me want to cry, and I want to make a difference.

I have been very outspoken and committed to making others perceive former and current prostitutes as human beings with the same value as everybody else. Unfortunately though, a lot of people disagree with me. If anything, I hope this case against Svein Ludvigsen might help me to change this perception.

NewsVoice: What is the story on Marion case about? Her tormentors seem to be connected to Norway. 

Marion started working in the sex industry in her early 20s at Baltazar Budoar, a famous “high class” brothel that existed in Norway in the late 90s and early 2000. She worked at Baltazar for 5 years. Later she was raped in Spain, by one of her (Norwegian) neighbours, who drugged her on GHB (rape drug), and kept her drugged for several weeks, while raping her several times every day.

She finally managed to get on her feet, and out of the apartment, where she was given help. Spanish police wanted to arrest this perpetrator, but he fled to Norway, where as far as I know, he is still a free man. Even though Spanish police have sent an arrest warrant for him, wanting to arrest him for an “extreme case of rape” in Spain. Besides from that, it is difficult for me to disclose much about Marion, without revealing her identity. Obviously Marion is not her real name.

NewsVoice: I have understod that you digged deep into this swamp and that you found out connections between the sex trafficking market and their customers that happened to be politicians amongst others. Can you please tell us if your research is in anyway connected to the revelation of a sex trafficking network in Norway, 2016?

If Svein Ludvigsen [the former minister of fisheries] was directly involved in the dark room scandals from 2016, I wouldn’t know. However, sexual predators are like cockroaches, gathering in huge numbers, behind closed doors, in dark rooms. And they are never alone. They always have many friends, who shares their twisted and distorted ideas of “love”. However, immediately somebody turns on the light in one of these dark rooms, they run like scared chickens.

They also recognize each other, due to their morals, and in such a way arguably have “sex-predator radars”, allowing them to see each other, often across the internet, without ever having physically met. Their moral belief system is obsessed around the idea of that “there’s nothing wrong with us, we love children”. This leads them to often display public attempts at de-emphasising the grief they are causing to their victims, and also sometimes flat out blame their victims for their actions.

Once you know what to look for, and I do, recognizing them is easy, since they’re obsessed with explaining that “this is no sin”, or “it’s a sexual orientation”, or “it’s normal, we simply provide sexual education to our children”, etcetera. Making one of these predators actually realize the harm they are causing, is almost impossible, even when you catch him red handed which is something Ludvigsen’s explanation to the court today very accurately shows.

But believe me, I happen to know very well the cost of their actions. And when a teenage girl starts washing with steel brushes, carves off skin with a kitchen knife, or starves herself almost to death, because she wants to feel that “she is in control over her body”, or “clean away that which she feels she can never wash away”, there is a very real cost to their behaviour. One sexual predator can also often destroy hundreds of lives during his life time.

Stopping this behaviour, should be priority 1, 2 and 3 for humanity. And the way you stop it, is by smoking them out, the same way you smoke out cockroaches, by simply turning on the light. Study them, smoke em’ out, and let the courts exterminate them. If that doesn’t work, out them in the public space like I did with Ludvigsen. Humanity needs to collectively say that this is not okay!

NewsVoice: How did the authorities in Norway react when you started snooping around?

I was arrested multiple times. Every time I was arrested, they were obsessed by taking my IT equipment, and the charges against me were always in the category of “speech crimes”. Once I was convicted and sentenced to six months of prison time.

The last time I was arrested, I had three tires punctured on my car when I came out, and my partner and girlfriend almost drove off the road before she realized that somebody had sabotaged the car. That became enough for us, and we left Norway that same evening, for never to return again.

Later I called my lawyer who told me; “If you come back to Norway, they’ll probably find some excuse to arrest you for a very, very, very long time”.

Their methods were always the same; First they would smear me in the media, and lie about what I had said. Then I’d be arrested, and they would take all my IT equipment. Their motives was obviously to make sure I wouldn’t tell anybody what I knew. You can see some footage from my last arrest here.

This happened only some days after I had gotten the Minister of Justice to comment on the “Marion” interview. I was arrested. The day after the above arrest, my car was sabotaged and my girlfriends could had killed herself driving it.

Every time they let me out though, I got hold of new computers and phones to make sure I would be able to blog and film. At one point my local police station had taken six cell phones from me and four computers, including the power adapter to my shaving machine. Some of my articles I wrote from the local library in this period.

NewsVoice: Have your work and digging been used by the mainstream media in Norway?

Most of the things I wrote have been taken down. Either through censorship, or because I chose to take them down myself, because my articles created trouble for me, and made it impossible for me to find a job, etc. However, here is how my own local media wrote about some of my articles.

Notice, the above articles are not an accurate description of my articles, but rather more or less fabrications, and/or gross exaggerations. For instance Thoresen took a blogger who had written 117 articles where he “apologised pedophilia” in defense, and he wrote his speech of defense as comments on my girlfriend’s Facebook profile, so I asked him a simple question, which was as follows; “Are you a pedophile?” This resulted in more than 1000 comments on my girlfriend’s Facebook wall, and culminated in that my local newspaper wrote about it as if I had “accused him of pedophilia”.

Sorry for saying the obvious, but when a person is publicly defending pedophilia, asking the question I did is an obvious response. Sure, it might have been “brutally direct”, but my personal experiences about these things, is that pedophiles often tends to minimize the damage of pedophilia themselves in the public room, in an attempt to rally public consent for accepting it as a “sexual orientation”. Which I find revolting myself, having seen the damage this does to children and individuals, often destroying their entire lives.

What people also don’t tend to realize, is that by defending the perpetrator, one also unwillingly often tends to increase the feeling of guilt among the victims.

NewsVoice: Could you please explain exactly why the police arrested you in the first place? What did they have on you, to be able to prosecute you and what was the charge, in their own words? 

Their reasons for initially arresting me, was because they claimed I had put forth bomb threats. The video below for instance, was “translated” into Norwegian. The last sentence in the video, where I say “Buckle up and getting ready for the biggest shit storm humanity has ever seen”, was translated into Norwegian such that it became “I will detonate the biggest ammonium nitrate bomb throughout history”.

I was convicted for having put forth bomb threats, and I spent 6 months in jail because of the lies of my local media. The way they did it, was to first have YouTube take the video down and censor it, for then to have my local media inform the public about what the video displayed, all of which was fabrications and lies.

Watch the video yourself, and tell me if this is a “bomb threat”.

The only reason why the video is currently available, is because I told the police I wanted to retry my case, and I needed access to the video. So I was given access to the video, and uploaded it to YouTube again. Of course at this point, I had already spent six months in prison because of the video, and had also been harassed for 13 months before that because of what “everybody thought the video displayed”.

If YouTube hadn’t censored my video, it would have been impossible to convict me. When it was censored, only some 25 people had actually seen the video, but the entire country believed it contained “bomb threats”, because that was what the media told them it contained. Sure, one might ask questions about the video’s header, but at that time, I wanted to speak with the police, since I actually thought they could help me, with the things I knew about politicians and government officials in Norway. God was I naive …

NewsVoice: When you said: “Buckle up and getting ready for the biggest shit storm humanity has ever seen”, what exactly was you referring to? What information was about to be disclosed or did you even have the chance to disclose it since you were arrested?

I never had the chance to disclose it, and in a way, you might argue that I wanted to tell the police, since I had known the story about ‘Marion’ at that time for almost a decade, plus many other things I knew at that time too. However, due to the reaction of the police, I rapidly realized it was impossible to disclose anything to them, unless you also disclosed it to the “entire world at the same time”. But yes, the idea was obviously to “publicly display powerful people’s dirty laundry” you might say.

NewsVoice: When you fled Norway, where did you go and where did you end up? Are you still together with your girlfriend and is your new life secure and better?

Thomas Hansen, privat foto
Thomas Hansen, privat foto

I moved to Cyprus almost three years ago. The last time I spoke with my lawyer which was some two years ago, he said that if I ever came back to Norway, I should expect being arrested, and having to spend a very, very, very long time in jail, or possibly even at a psychiatric hospital, and that I should stay as far away from Norway as I could.

I have been living in Cyprus now for almost three years, and I thrive here, and I have picked up the remaining pieces from my life, and I am currently working as a software developer.

These types of wounds requires years of healing, and in many ways though, I suffer from the same traumas and problems as rape and sex victims do, since I too very well know the feeling of “not being the owner of your body”, and have others “have their will with you, using force”, etc … If anything, my own experiences have only made me more determined in my cause, since I now know very well the type of suffering rape victims and sex victims are struggling with.

I am still together with my girlfriend. In many ways, we have waded through hell together. In fact, she is the one filming the police during my last arrest in Norway.

NewsVoice: Thanks for the interview.

Watch Thomas Hansen’s comments on his YouTube channel

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  1. Det är så här riktiga visselblåsare behandlas. Hjältar och hjältinnor som systemets försvarare ska terrorisera och visas upp som avskräckande exempel för att skrämma alla andra till tystnad. Få skulle våga ändå. Men vi får inte tystna. Men samvetet ska vara rent. Då har de svårt att sätta dit dig. De sjuka lirarnas tentakler når djupt i det globala systemet.
    Censuren är helt galen nu på alla fronter. Att inte alla kan se de nu är en gåta.

  2. Sista meningen; propagandan i Sverige är så kompakt och heltäckande och ensidig, att kan du inte engelska och kan läsa fjärran bloggar, är du ute i dimman. Även spanska på nyhetsnivå är ganska lätt att förstå.
    Amerikanska bloggare ligger nog på topp eftersom där finns många pensionerade bokstavsagenter, som kan tala ut. Så det är inte mycket till gåta, utan ett bevis på hur kontrollerade tingen är.

  3. Ja, Sverige är nog ett av de mest extrema och kontrollerade länderna i världen… och de flesta är helt omedvetna-

  4. Skulle önska få igång en vidare diskussion om manligt och kvinnligt och om sensualitet generellt och om pedofil i synnerhet. Ingen lätt sak att sparka igång kanske? Alla, absolut alla, hänvisar medvetet eller omedveten till sin egen sexualitet som norm, så fort sexualiteten kommer på tal. Detta är kanske inte så konstigt, då sexualiteten är något ytterst privat – en privat angelägenhet vi sällan eller aldrig talar med andra om. Sexualiteten blir därför något du gör med din fru, alternativt med din man, därför inskränker sig kunskapen där till. Inte så konstigt om vi då utgår ifrån det enda vi känner till är om oss själva? Där av känner vi ganska dålig till andras människors sexualitet.

    På tal vi om sexuella avarter, så var t ex (som vi alla känner till) homosexualitet förbudet och/eller sågs som en sjukdom fram till slutet av 60-talet eller möjligen början av sjuttiotalet. Här skulle man kunna säga att vi hela tiden flyttar fram positionerna för det tillåtna och lagliga.

    Vem vet bäst om hur det är att vara pedofil, om inte en pedofil “him self” som per definition dras sexuellt mot barn sexuellt – mot barnens egen vilja förstås. Det är inte som ett missbruk som t ex alkoholism. Det finns inga anonyma pedofiler, som samlas för att diskutera deras tidigare missbruk och idag som nyktra pedofiler. Alltså, det är skillnad på att vara alkoholfri och att leva som nykter, alkoholist. Det finns, mig veterligen, inga nyktra pedofiler – antingen är du en eller inte!

    Det jag vill ta fasta på är vittnesmålen som kryper fram i artikeln där pedofiler verkar ha en (i vart fall mellan sig) önskan om att deras sexuella preferens blir accepterad av omvärlden, och inte fördömd. Haken är ju förstås att barn blir offer för deras begär och får svåra psykologiska skador – framför allt tilliten skadas, om än inte för livet så i vart fall under många, många år framöver, och om dem vågar och får möjlighet att bearbetar sina upplevelser samt träffar en partner med gudalik tålamod kanske de i framtiden kan njuta av sin sexuallitet – men bara möjligen? Detta skiljer pedofili från från andra, idag icke accepterade sexuella preferenser, just att att det inte är ett avtal mellan två vuxna människor. Det intressant vore om någon pedofil, i skydd av anonymitet, skulle drista sig till att ge sin syn – hur de rättfärdigar sina övergrepp?

    I min inskränkta värld är det som en torterare får sexuell njutning av att tortera sitt offer. Hur upplever offret tortyren, som är något de inte samtyckt till? Detta är inte som vid en sadomasochism relationen, där det finns en överenskommelse mellan två parter – en lek och framförallt med en kommunikation i botten. Hur man kan rättfärdiga en läggning som innebär oerhörda trauman för motparten? Jag får det inte att gå ihop? Hur man man njuta av något och samtidigt vara medveten om att motparten lider och kommer så att göra i överskådlig tid framöver? Fattar det inte. Någon som gör?

      • Visst har du rätt Öystein, men med följdfrågan: människor med den sjukdom eller avvikelse har dem sjukdomsinsikt och söker dem hjälp? Får snarare uppfattningen att dem vill verka i det osynliga. Men hur det med driven att ta hand om sin egen avkomma? Gör man inte vad som helst för att skydda sina egna barn? Skulle en pedofil njuta av att veta att denne dotter blev utnyttjad, eller skulle denna reagera som vilken förälder som helst, skulle reagera? Och är det inte också så att homosexuella män är överrepresenterade i gruppen pedofiler? Och varför är män över lag överrepresenterade vad gäller pedofili, även om det även finns kvinnor där också.

        När jag växte upp på 60- och 70-talet var väl inte ens pedofili förbjudet i lag? Finns det fler pedofiler idag? Och är mäktiga affärsmän och politiker överrepresenterade vad gäller pedofili? Och varför då i så fall? Är mäktiga människor sjukare än gemene man? Och om så är fallet, vad är orsaken till det? Har det blivit lättare för pedofiler att verka i samhället i takt med ökade rättigheter för HBTQ-människorna? Och om så är fallet, vad det så lyckat då?

        • Du skrev:
          “[1] Finns det fler pedofiler idag? [2] Och är mäktiga affärsmän och politiker överrepresenterade vad gäller pedofili? Och varför då i så fall? [3] Är mäktiga människor sjukare än gemene man? Och om så är fallet, vad är orsaken till det? [4] Har det blivit lättare för pedofiler att verka i samhället i takt med ökade rättigheter för HBTQ-människorna? Och om så är fallet, vad det så lyckat då?”

          Mina tankar om det:

          [1] Ingen aning, men inom vissa kulturer verkar det förekomma i mindre omfattning. Jag tror inte problemet är mer dolt i dessa kulturer. Det förekommer helt enkel mindre och om det stämmer varför?

          [2] Jag tror inte det, men elitens pedofiler verkar ha förutsättningar att ritualisera det på ett mer avancerat sätt.

          [3] Jag skulle tro det och det verkar hänga samman med att vissa personlighetskaraktärer drar sig till maktfullkomliga positioner medan vanligt folk saknar intresse av att klättra på karriärsstegen. Många insatta personer verkar anse att maktpositioner ofta innehas av sociopater. Makt korrumperar sedan i vanlig ordning och det verkar inte vara ett problem för dessa maktsträvande människor. Deras primära drivkraft kan vara en kompensatorisk psykologi.

          [4] Absolut. Sexköpslobbyn arbetar för att normalisera och legalisera pedofili och andra skruvade beteenden bla genom att försöka sänka den legala sexdebutåldern.

          Ett exempel på sexliberalismens utveckling i Sverige: SVT-ankaret J.B. spelade in sexfilmer på gym, vilka han själv sedan la ut på webben. Då försvarades hans beteende av “sexliberala” med att han var ju gay och för en gay var ju det helt normalt. Nästa steg är att en pedofil får ansätta barn eftersom det är normalt för en pedofil, ett sluttande plan…

        • Personligen så tror jag att pedofiler i botten har någon form av diagnos. Själv skulle jag gissa på psykopat. Det kan då också rimma rätt bra med att många psykopater får maktpositioner. Dessa maktpositioner har man ofta uppnått genom att “gå över lik”.

          Att en psykopat oftar saknar empati skulle också kunna förklara att de som också är pedofiler klarar av att utöva sina pervesioner på barn utan skrupler. En psykopat har också ofta en grandios självbild och har nog därför svårt att se att något denne gör skulle kunna vara fel.

    • I only read the first part (I am the man interviewed), because I’m busy with other things – But you raise an interesting question in your first paragraph, which is that we need to openly talk about sexuality. One of my personal griefs in life, is how prostitutes are treated, and looked down upon, even though apparently 50% of all men on the planet have at some point in their lives looked for such services.

      Hypocrisy runs deep in our societies …

      “Marion” (which is obviously not her real name) for instance, says that some of her clients were people in wheel chairs, or other males who had wives with cancer, that could no longer provide sexual services, etc – She told me how she didn’t feel “dirty” for helping these customers out. She also claims that sometimes she would also have personal pleasure from providing her services …

      I personally have never sought out sexual paid services, but I must confess that this subject is not of such a “black and white” character as we sometimes like to think …

      A nice beginning would be to stop judging the women (and men) that work in this industry. My experience is that people do what they have to do to survive …

  5. Nej vi fattar nog inte hur pedofiler och våldtäktsmän är funtade. Visst måste det vara en psykisk sjukdom eller störning när förövaren kan fortsätta och han ser att offren lider och är livrädda. Det är så fruktansvärt så det är olustigt att prata om det. Jag vet inte hur många offer det är för pedofili varje år men det är omkring 8000 våldtäkter. Historien om Thomas Hansen kunde vara ett drömsamhälle för Morgan Johansson och co där media,politiker och rättsväsendet är starkt kopplade till varann.

  6. Tack Torbjörn för att du dristade dig att försöka svara på dessa svåra frågor. Här lite resultat av en kvarts efterforskningar över internet:

    “Pedofili vanligare än vad man trott”:

    “det finns en tysk och en finländsk studie som tyder på att det kan vara ganska vanligt. De här studierna, som även de är preliminära, visar att knappt en procent av alla män mellan 40 och 70 år har ett sexuellt intresse för minderåriga”.

    Källa: https://www.aftonbladet.se/senastenytt/ttnyheter/inrikes/a/A2Xj65/pedofili-vanligare-an-vad-man-trott

    “Cirka 300 000 svenskar uppges ha sexuella fantasier om barn ( eller tre procent av befolkningen. Min anmärkning) Långt ifrån alla begår övergrepp”/…/”Inom sjukvården klassas pedofili som en psykiatrisk diagnos där tre kriterier måste uppfyllas. Bland annat att personen i fråga ska ha haft intensiva sexuella fantasier om barn under minst sex månaders tid. Exakt hur många pedofiler det finns i Sverige vet ingen. Däremot visar studier att uppskattningsvis tre procent av befolkningen har sexuella fantasier om barn och att en del av dem uppfyller diagnosen”.

    Källa: https://www.unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/sa-manga-svenskar-sexfantiserar-om-barn-4497256.aspx

    Andra studier pekar på att: “upp till 1-5 procent av männen har fantasier om sex med barn” samt att dem kan söka hjälp hos av stiftelsen Sexpo.

    Källa: https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2017/01/17/de-tusentals-pedofilernas-land

    Studer från mittuniveristetet om pedolifi.

    http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1220186/FULLTEXT01.pdf

    Detta ger vid handen att pedofili är vanligare än man trott. Inte alla som dras sexuellt mot barn begår pedofilbrott. Tydligen vanligt också att pedofiler får depressioner av deras sexuella läggning men att det finns hjälp att få samt än viktigare att pedofiler har möjlighet att ta sitt personliga ansvar och söka hjälp, så att dem kan avstå att begå övergrepp mot barn. Jag tror så här: man behöver inte vara psykopat för att vara pedofil, men bland pedofiler är det inte vanligt att dem är psykopater, speciellt om de rättfärdigar barns lidande för egen sexuell njutningsskull.

    För att återgå till artikeln så är det tydligt att kopplingen mellan psykopati och pedofili existerar, speciellt om mäktiga krafter försöker tysta visselblåsare från att avslöja pedofilin i samhället hos just mäktiga och framgångsrika politiker och affärsmän. Detta är en rättsröta, och med rättsrötor gör man en sak: man röker ut dem till offentligheten.

    Till sist: homosexuella män är överrepresenterade bland pedofiler med faktor 2:1 samt andra vad gäller andra kriterier av sexuellt eller andra med avvikande genusnatur, så är överrepresentationen bland dömda pedofiler faktor 20 till 1:

    “Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1”.

    Källa: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

    Så Torbjörns farhågor att HBQT-folkets ökade rättigheter även kan äga sin riktighet. Ett hett debattämne således 🙂

    • Having had a lot of experience about this subject (I’m the guy interviewed), I feel from one point of view that I agree with you, that pedophilia might be a disease. However, from another point of view, I believe reducing it to a disease runs the pedophilia’s erand, since it “relieves responsibility” from them.

      For instance, drug abuse is a disease, and it has few (real) victims, besides the person who is sick and suffering from drug abuse – At least compared to pedophilia, which leaves a long tail of victims in its path.

      I think that reducing pedophilia to a disease, is dangerous, because it justifies abuse, allowing the perpetrator saying “I was sick” – Which reduces society’s opportunity to shelter society from his vicious acts …

      If pedophilia is in deed a disease, it is a disease of society, and not a disease of the individual – Kind of like fascism was in the 1940s …

  7. “I believe reducing it to a disease runs the pedophilia’s erand, since it “relieves responsibility” from them”.

    Wow I’m impressed. Good thinking. I have not thought about that before. It make sense. I’ll remember that. Thanks. Why not have the same approach to human abnormal behavior, such as psychopaths?

    What we need is to regain our sexuality; Get rid of the negative effects of harmful internet pornography. If people just understood what ponograph does with humans.

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    • Regarding psychopathy, some could argue similar arguments. Asberger for instance is (probably) a born condition, and in many ways at the opposite side of the neural spectrum as psychopathy. Asbergers often themselves claims that they’re “different, but not sick”. A psychopath of course, is much more socially cunning, and will clutch at any straw giving him relief for his own actions – Whether or not psychopathy is in fact a disease is an interesting question, even though we can evidently see physical differences on the psychopath’s brain compared to neuro typicals …

      But by all means, others can refer to whatever condition they wish as a disease – But when it comes to (some) conditions, I don’t think we should justify actions due to labelling these actions as diseases of the mind. Rapes and sexual abuse are just some few examples. An acquaintance of “Marion” once stood up in court after having been found guilty of rape for the 3rd or 4th time and asked for “help because he was sick”. Should he be given help to combat his perverted actions? Yes! Should he be let out in such a way that he can repeat what he did, after some shrink have labeled him “healthy”? I don’t know, I personally don’t think so. But if we do let him out, we have to be careful as to where we allow him to re-enter society at the very least, and guard him as a “walking potential bomb”. And we should definitely NOT give him less time in prison due to that he is “sick” …

      As an example of an extreme case, I personally believe Anders Behring Breivik was sick. Does that mean I want to have him out into society again? NO! He was a crackpot lunatic, that can never be let out again. But he also was utterly insane and a complete crackpot. As long as we don’t let people with extreme conditions back into our societies such that they can repeat their evil acts, I’m OK with labelling them whatever others want to label them …

      Sorry if I am not making much sense, I just felt you had deserved a reply from me 🙂

      • Psychopaths are not so common, but people with psycopathic features are. We can not lock up all the people in the cages. I think Torbjörn are on something: “Power then corrupts in ordinary order and it does not seem to be a problem for these power-intensive people. Their primary impetus can be a compensatory psychology”.

        Most people easily develop into cowards; lying people and cheating and deceiving for their own sake. What we need is a new collective morality.

        Even if you are ill, you can still take responsibility.

        • What you are saying here definitely resonates with my own beliefs. I live in Cyprus, so I happen to know what the true meaning of “Anarchy” is, which is two Greek words, combined implying “Without leaders”. If you manage to ignore the smearing these two words have been given throughout the centuries, possibly by “leaders not wanting justice and equality”, I happen to believe this might be a good way forward.

          Basically, just get rid of all politicians, all people with powers, and everything that justifies for some to believe they have “extended rights” that others don’t, and I think we’re on to something here … 🙂

          I 100% agree with you that we need a completely new morality system …

          • I’m probably not a fan of anarchy, and in terms of politicians, the relationship is split and contradictory. A good idea is to forget the politicians and look at the interests of ownership instead. See more politicians as salesman of ownership – where an elite tries to get public to vote for what benefits the owners, but at the same time, politicians are publicum’s changs to get their interests realized. But let’s not get stuck in meaningless discussions about politics.

            Trump has done very much and arrested more pedophiles than any other president before him. An example for our law-making congregation to follow.

            • I wasn’t a fan of Anarchy either, before I understood what it implied, and that it was completely different from what my assumptions had taught me through Sex Pistols and Hollywood movies.

              Forget the word, or exchange it with “pure liberalism”,and imagine a world where all are created equals under the God. In fact, if you think about it that way, it’s possible to argue that the founding fathers of America largely held these values …

              “We believe that all men are created as equals” – That’s what it means to me 🙂

              But yes, it is a “negative word” because of the way it has been portrayed, and it might be smarter of me to use different words … 😉

              I guess my experiences has taught me that all power corrupts, resulting in the logical conclusion of; “Hence, give no man power!” …

            • For the record, if one defines Anarchy as “no law”, I agree, with you, and I am against Anarchy. If one defines it according to what it means, using its original Greek meaning, which is “no leaders”, I think most people would agree with me – Including you 🙂

  8. Thank you to all of you who have liked this, shared it, and help me spread it to the rest of the world. I am speechless … 🙂

    And a special thank you to Torbjoern, who’s courage is unfortunately almost unmatched in Scandinavia …

    <3 to you all 🙂

    • I’m with you, Thomas, of your innerstanding of anarchy. And I have similar, but also very different, experiences with the Swedish states employees. Sweden is also the best country in the world, even though it’s cracking every where.

  9. Tack för det du åstadkommit Thomas! Hatten av! Hela detta etablissemang måste upp i ljuset. Gräver man lite djupare så hamnar man i experimenterande med människans mentala värld, projekt som drivs i privat regi av och med delar av den sk “eliten” som alltmer verkar bestå av skräckslagna individer som tagit sej vatten över huvudet. Mera info i denna video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWPQU7XDBAc

      • One can argue as you do (about anarchy …) but my own experience says that anarchy (without leader, no one has more power than anyone else) would be a wet dream of the hungry personalities of power. It will never be easier for them to take control of others.

        Having leadership qualities is not in itself a bad thing. Similarly, it is not bad to have other talents such as: ball control, musicality or artistic talent. If you and I agree with several questions and get more followers, we choose a talented spokesman for our cause (which is also a skilled organizer), then everyone will benefit from it. Bang – we have created a leader.

        Anarchy can also mean holding down, trying to control and marginalizing people’s drive, capacity and talent. otherwise it may happen that someone becomes more of a life. It requires a depressing and controlled society if everyone is to remain equal.

        If anakri is to be the status quo in a society, then it is necessary to suffocate people’s self-realization, since we are all born with different abilities. I believe everyone has the right to choose to develop and exploit their abilities and talents to the full. If this is not allowed, people will kill for that right, that is what people do, all the time.

        • Hmm, maybe. It’s anyway a different debate I guess, and we both side tracked seriously here for a moment 🙂

          I guess my feeling is that I am just too tired of people with powers, given them from law, powers that they are abusing, over and over again. I know Torbjørn have experienced similar things, and I know this is insanely difficult to believe in, even though I have evidence and witnesses willing to testify towards my experiences – The video is also in Norwegian, but hopefully you can understand it anyway, and maybe see how my arguments were “born” …

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpVZpBPfcdE

  10. Let Thomas Jefferson believe what he wants, but he is wrong: “We believe that all men are created as equals.” Words like: “believe and creation” are religious words. Keep this in mind – no man is created, but everyone is born. What it means is: Equal under the law and that it is wrong to offend anyone. It does not mean that everyone is born equally. Far from it. We are all born unequal as we all have different abilities. Some are more gifted than others and have talents that others do not have. We must learn to accept and live with inequalities.

    • If you modify your sentence to “different but equal”, I could resonate with what you say. Some people are born with Asberger for instance. My experiences about this is that (some) of those born with this condition are far superior in regards to some things, but suffers with other things. Obviously they’re not “equal” in skillset, but in “value”, there is no difference.

      • If I modify your sentence (and explained the difference) it would be: Value is something you measure, dignity is something immeasurable.

        But I fully understand your disgust with the people of power who treated you in this terrible way. It would be very arrogant of me to say: I understand how it was for you to be sentenced to five years in prison. Norwegian prison. Wrongly convicted of false evidence, or invisible and false grounds.

        I have spent a lot of time in Norway and know the Norwegian society well. Its nationalism is highly unhealthy. This nationalism was created during the years when the Germans occupied the country. Norway is also a young (almost) history-free nation with a small and homogeneous population. The culture then easily becomes stale and smelly. This national character, has later been used by the people of power to silencing all criticism. The whole nation can easily turn wrong and become blind, collectively pointing out an innocent enemy.

    • Tell me about it …!! 😛
      Or “It is typical Norwegian to be good”. Or “We live in the best country on the planet”, etc …

      The sickening and partially psychotic self-affirmations about Norway spoken by a lot of Norwegians are disgusting to most sane people having seen the rest of the world … 🙁

      An acquaintance of me who spend years in prison for something he never did used to say in a sarcastic tone, barely noticeable to anyone not understanding his sense of humor; “At least we’re lucky to live in the best country on the planet” – I used to laugh as he said it …

  11. Just take the history of Odd Lindberg who had to flee Norway after filming the cruel Norwegian seal hunt. The whole nation turned against him. The Norwegian authorities secretly classified his report. Odd Lindberg then released documentary film based on the material he collected during the hunt. He was sentenced in Norway for defamation. They lowered his boat. Destroyed his home.
    He was dismissed from work. Further more: lawsuit after lawsuit against him. Described as a criminal man in the press and so on ……

    But it is not unique to Norway – happens in all countries, I guess. It is Norway’s self-image I want to pay attention to.

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