NewsVoice publicerade den 30 dec 2014 artikeln: ”Seen.is och Unseen.is drivs av amerikaner som insamlar och säljer persondata…”. De isländska tjänsterna har en VD från USA som är styrelseordförande i datautvinningbolaget Intelius i USA och som även ligger bakom den alternativa nyhetskanalen Before it’s News. Enligt VD:n Chris Kitze är dock ”data mining” uteslutet på Seen.is och Unseen.is. NewsVoice väljer att tro på det.
Text: Torbjörn Sassersson
NewsVoice-artikeln som dragits tillbaka var korrekt, men misstänkliggjorde Seen.is och Unseen.is för att de kan vara tjänster som arbetar med ”data mining” (datautvinning, se utförlig förklaring längst ned) dvs att de skulle samla privatpersoners preferenser och kontakter för att tex kunna sälja dessa vidare.
Efter att ha läst Chris Kitzes mail inkluderat i ett mail från Seen:s administration (se nedan) som förklarar att Seen.is och Unseen.is är utsatt för en smutskastningskampanj som kommit till Europa, blev beslutet att NewsVoice-artikeln drogs tillbaka.
I mailet nedan till alla drygt 88,000 användare på Seen.is anser en administratör att en ”blog” i Europa (NewsVoice) sprider vidare smutskastning från USA och administratören tycks fråga sig vilket intresse en sådan ”blog” kan ha som inte tycker det är bra att man kan göra bakgrundskontroller på personer som kan vara kriminella. Antar att administratören syftar på Intelius affärside, dvs bakgrundscheck.
Oavsett administratörens irritation känns det fel att Newsvoice tar risken att sprida ett rykte om att Seen.is utför ”data mining”. Seen.is och Unseen.is förtjänar en god chans att få utveckla sin verksamhet i fred och Chris Kitzes ord nedan känns ärliga.
Man måste även komma ihåg att de flesta sociala tjänster på internet från Facebook till Google+ och MySpace är utpräglade datautvinningstjänster som fungerar som veritabla persondatadammsugare. Seen.is och Unseen.is är tjänster som vill stå på integritetens sida förutsatt att vi kan lita på Chris Kitzes ord. Undertecknad väljer att göra det och NewsVoice kanal på Seen.is ska återstartas.
Text: Torbjörn Sassersson
From: ”Administrations at Seen.is”
2 januari 2015 02.55
Subject: More rumors about SeenHello users,
The smear campaign against Seen has moved to Europe, now in the form of a blog that makes several accusations against Seen and Seen’s owner, Chris Kitze.
In Europe they do not have the background checkers and people finders which use public data that we have in the US.
They are thus unable to run background checks on prospective employees, and a child abuser is quite safe applying for a job at a day care center, or a convicted thief as a cashier in a store.
The spin on this blog is that it is a bad thing to be able to run background checks. We in the US think it is a valuable service.
Because the rumors are coming thicker every day, we thought it best to send our response to ALL our users, so they can hear the truth about the matter.
Ask yourself one question, who is spreading these rumors? And why? Do they really have your best interests at heart?
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Here is Chris’ answer to one of our users, regarding this latest rumor:
Several things you should understand about Intelius. It’s true I have been a director there for several years, I was also an early investor. It’s now called iNome. I’m not the CEO of that company at all, just a very tiny investor and director. That’s a huge difference. Yes, that company was sued because of what another company did with the customers and lawsuits usually claim all kinds of things that might or might not be true. Those lawsuits were all resolved.
You need to understand, in the U.S. directors of companies are not involved in the day to day affairs of the company. Everything Intelius does is inside the US and follows US laws. They provide PUBLIC records, these are used by companies (and some individuals) to do background checks on people for hiring, etc. Keep in mind, this can be people’s arrest records, which are PUBLIC in the U.S., among other things, that are used by people to decide if they should hire someone to babysit their children or hire for a job. Imagine if you hire someone to work at a bank who is a convicted bank robber! Or a child molester to baby sit your children!! That’s the issue and there are quite a number of people who avoided a big problem using Intelius. Some things really do need to be out in public.
However, there are most definitely things that need to be kept in private. That’s why I got together with some friends of mine to start Seen and Unseen. People are being abused by Google and Facebook and I haven’t even gotten to the state security services. You know all about these. We did this also to help get news about the persecution of Falun Gong out to the world and especially to China. Many of us do this very peaceful meditation which is severely persecuted in China: http://faluninfo.net This is very important for people to know about.
Unseen (and Seen) are totally separate companies from Intelius or any other company and other than me, there are zero other Intelius shareholders in Unseen. We don’t have any VC’s or big companies or even other large outside investors, it’s owned by me and the other people who work there. The company and servers are based in Iceland. It’s an Icelandic private company, an ehf. It has absolutely nothing to do with Intelius.
We don’t do ANY data mining whatsoever with Seen or Unseen, they’re based in Iceland and I’m not even sure it would be legal to do that in Iceland. We barely even keep logs, only to protect from abuse and these are deleted regularly. If people delete things, we don’t keep copies around. We don’t run any ads on Unseen, but we’ll need to run ads for free users on Seen.is to pay for the servers and bandwidth, which are pretty expensive in Iceland. Another thing is our encryption is pretty good and it’s pretty easy to use, as I think you discovered. The premium account on Unseen will in the future turn off all the ads on Seen and turn on stronger encryption. Keep in mind, Seen is designed to be out in the open, but not open to the big companies like Google. We think this leaves the user in charge of their data.
Chris Kitze
Data mining (enligt Wikiedpia) betecknar verktyg för att söka efter mönster, samband och trender i stora datamängder. Verktygen använder statistiska beräkningsmetoder kombinerat med beräkningseffektiva algoritmer för maskininlärning och mönsterigenkänning hämtade från artificiell intelligens. Tekniker för datautvinning tillämpas inom områden som bioinformatik, affärsunderrättelser (business intelligence), beslutsstödsystem, webbanvändningsanalys (web mining), text mining, maskinöversättning, automatisk sammanfattning av texter, IT-forensik och analys av sensordata.